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| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11515520aea2f8 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/test/test_numarray.py: some code-prettyness changes | 00:45 |
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| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 114147caee4ec6 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: adding set_shape, some tests pass, some fail | 00:45 |
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| kenaan | 12ctismer win64-stage1 11e7f4fc3d64b9 15/pypy/: changed all checks for (int, long) to is_valid_int. I'm pretty sure that I made mistakes, we'll see ;-) | 00:55 |
| stakkars | pjenvey: thanks! | 00:56 |
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| kenaan | 12ctismer win64-stage1 11e317cfe7ae6a 15/pypy/: three more typos | 01:25 |
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| nedbat | I'm trying to run pypy in sandbox mode on webfaction, and am getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512636/ | 03:22 |
| nedbat | it is clear to anyone what I need to do to get this to work? | 03:22 |
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| zooko | If anybody wants to help us port pycryptopp (a CPython API library) to cpyext/PyPy, then tomorrow would be the right day to do it, and we would be grateful: https://tahoe-lafs.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2011-November/006857.html | 03:44 |
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| pjenvey | don't think I have time for porting pycryptopp tomorrow but that would be sweet to have on pypy | 04:34 |
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| CIA-68 | 03fijal 07roundup * 10#939/Upgrade CPython stdlib to 2.7.2: | 05:23 |
| CIA-68 | [new] According to Raymond Hettinger 2.7.2 contains a lot of bugfixes over 2.7.1, we | 05:23 |
| CIA-68 | should upgrade. * 14https://bugs.pypy.org/issue939 | 05:23 |
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| qbproger | are there plans to include sqlite3.dll with the windows distribution? | 05:53 |
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| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11fee2e7a857cd 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: maybe found a problem, add comment instead of fixing it | 06:30 |
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| fijal | hi | 06:53 |
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| mattip | hi | 06:59 |
| fijal | mattip: hi | 06:59 |
| mattip | hi. I think I made a mess with reshape for slices. | 07:00 |
| fijal | yes? | 07:00 |
| fijal | on your branch? | 07:01 |
| mattip | I only have a little time now, I am adding transpose and arange in such a way that you can review them indepently of the reshape mess. | 07:01 |
| fijal | it seems carl should relook list-strategies | 07:01 |
| mattip | Yes, on my branch | 07:01 |
| fijal | mattip: ok, cool, just make another branch maybe hten? | 07:01 |
| mattip | fjial: I just back up to a nice place within my branch, do the changes which creates a new head, then merge the head into the branch. | 07:03 |
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| fijal | ok | 07:04 |
| fijal | however you feel is the best | 07:04 |
| kenaan | 12fijal micronumpy-resync 111ea6c70d9971 15/: close old abandoned branch | 07:05 |
| kenaan | 12fijal numpy-multidim-exp 11df45bf0c2ee7 15/: close abandoned branch, multidim support in trunk | 07:05 |
| mattip | got to run, sorry. | 07:05 |
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| fijal | see you | 07:05 |
| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: seems list-strategies are to be reconsidered a bit ;-) | 07:14 |
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| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11cdef93e5ffca 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: tests, implementation of transpose | 07:16 |
| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11bdc5b1762659 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: Merge transpose, reshape/shape | 07:16 |
| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11d306832a1934 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: test, implelent arange | 07:16 |
| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 11688917aae267 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/test/test_numarray.py: add explicit test for arange float | 07:16 |
| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 112c8f7428524d 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: Merge: arange, transpose ready for review | 07:16 |
| kenaan | 12mattip matrixmath 115276f48f44f7 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/: Merge to avoid creating new head, not ready for review | 07:16 |
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| fijal | qbproger: ping? | 07:41 |
| qbproger | yea? | 07:41 |
| fijal | qbproger: isn't there a download of windows dlls? | 07:41 |
| fijal | there is no binary for windows yet | 07:41 |
| fijal | though | 07:41 |
| qbproger | I was using 1.6 | 07:42 |
| fijal | so, isn't there a download for dlls? | 07:43 |
| fijal | for 1.6 | 07:43 |
| qbproger | i just got the JIT zip file, and thought that'd have everything | 07:44 |
| qbproger | I don't see a ling for dlls on the pypy page for the sqlite3 dll | 07:44 |
| fijal | no, there is a set of dlls | 07:44 |
| qbproger | link* | 07:44 |
| fijal | somewhere | 07:44 |
| fijal | ah fuck | 07:45 |
| fijal | I took the link down from pypy.org/download.html because we have no binary for 1.7 | 07:45 |
| fijal | grrr | 07:45 |
| qbproger | why not just include everything you need in the one zip? | 07:45 |
| fijal | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A7B7A05E-6DE6-4D3A-A423-37BF0912DB84 | 07:46 |
| fijal | I don't know, ask amaury | 07:46 |
| fijal | I'm seriously way out of my element here :) | 07:46 |
| fijal | hm, | 07:46 |
| fijal | that probably does not include sqlite lib though | 07:46 |
| fijal | then indeed, we should ship it | 07:46 |
| qbproger | yea, i was just about to say.. | 07:46 |
| fijal | so the latest nightly has it | 07:48 |
| fijal | http://buildbot.pypy.org/nightly/trunk/pypy-c-jit-latest-win32.zip | 07:48 |
| fijal | and 1.7 binaries will have it as well | 07:48 |
| fijal | but someone has to go to the buildbot and click "ok" dialog boxes | 07:48 |
| qbproger | ah ok, just checking because I was surprised 1.6 didn't | 07:49 |
| fijal | 1.6 is probably broken on windows anyway | 07:49 |
| fijal | as in the JIT leaks stack space as far as I know | 07:49 |
| fijal | use the latest nightly | 07:49 |
| fijal | I'm sorry, but unless we get some windows developer, win32 will stay a second-class citizen :-/ | 07:50 |
| qbproger | i've been using 1.6 on windows... didn't notice anything | 07:50 |
| fijal | ok, good | 07:50 |
| fijal | we fixed some bugs | 07:50 |
| qbproger | cool | 07:50 |
| Garen | pypy was building on windows until stackless was enabled | 07:54 |
| bbot2 | Started: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/1862 [12hakanardo, jit-targets] | 07:54 |
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| Garen | anyone know the flag to disable that feature? | 07:54 |
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| fijal | Garen: --no-_continuations | 08:09 |
| fijal | or so | 08:09 |
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| fijal | --no-continuation | 08:10 |
| fijal | I would try that | 08:10 |
| fijal | hakanardo: hi hakan | 08:10 |
| fijal | hakanardo: I can try to help maybe with inheriting loop information to bridges | 08:10 |
| Garen | --no-continuation seems to be working | 08:11 |
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| hakanardo_ | fijal: cool | 08:16 |
| hakanardo_ | the idea was to store on every guard information about it's failargs | 08:17 |
| hakanardo_ | to prevent that from blowing up what we intend to stor for each box in the failargs | 08:18 |
| hakanardo_ | would be the index of the box among the inputargs | 08:19 |
| hakanardo_ | then we would be ablt to get inte information we need about it from the short preamble | 08:19 |
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| cfbolz | hello | 08:20 |
| Alex_Gaynor | hey | 08:21 |
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| qbproger | does pypy use PYTHONPATH? | 08:22 |
| Alex_Gaynor | yes | 08:23 |
| qbproger | hmmmm i set it, but it doesn't seem to be getting used | 08:23 |
| qbproger | cygwin on windows though... | 08:23 |
| qbproger | so i guess that's in a grey area | 08:23 |
| qbproger | i wish there was a parameter to set that path | 08:24 |
| qbproger | yea, it converts it to a windows path (i checked sys.path) even though on using cygwin | 08:26 |
| fijal | cfbolz: hi | 08:26 |
| fijal | cfbolz: weird nightly run | 08:26 |
| cfbolz | hey | 08:26 |
| cfbolz | why? | 08:26 |
| fijal | a lot of green/red | 08:26 |
| fijal | like why did translation got slower? | 08:26 |
| fijal | qbproger: file a bug report, although it's likely low priority | 08:27 |
| cfbolz | fijal: bit annoying | 08:27 |
| cfbolz | and, as usual, impossible to find out | 08:27 |
| fijal | cfbolz: yes, but maybe we should rerun it before making decisions? | 08:27 |
| qbproger | fijal: will do (probably in the morning though) | 08:27 |
| fijal | like it might be just flux in places | 08:27 |
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| cfbolz | fijal: guess so | 08:28 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | cfbolz: could be related to the fact that opaque pointers kill some optimizations in the JIT | 08:29 |
| cfbolz | Alex_Gaynor: but wasn't that mostly about opaque pointers to instances? | 08:30 |
| Alex_Gaynor | cfbolz: uhh, ask hakanardo_ I can't explain what exactly the effects are | 08:31 |
| cfbolz | Alex_Gaynor: rtfc, then :-) | 08:37 |
| Alex_Gaynor | cfbolz: I participated in this de-optimization by virtue of being hakanardo_'s rubber duck, isn't that enough? | 08:37 |
| cfbolz | Alex_Gaynor: yes, just saying that I think it's not the problem in our current context | 08:38 |
| Alex_Gaynor | could be, do we have any other suspects though? | 08:39 |
| kenaan | 12ctismer win64-stage1 11368cbded0c77 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/history.py: fix of is_valid_int call | 08:40 |
| cfbolz | yes, what quite slow is making large lists of ints, and then adding something else | 08:40 |
| Alex_Gaynor | pehraps we should log that | 08:41 |
| cfbolz | how? using debug_log? | 08:42 |
| Alex_Gaynor | sounds like a good start | 08:42 |
| bbot2 | Started: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/59 [12ctismer, win64-stage1] | 08:48 |
| fijal | cfbolz, Alex_Gaynor: I'm working on adding support for such stuff | 08:49 |
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| mattip | fijal: ping | 09:29 |
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| bbot2 | 4Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/1862 [12hakanardo, jit-targets] | 09:52 |
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| hakanardo_ | Alex_Gaynor, cfbolz: we cant move GETFIELD_GC or GETARRAYITEM_GC of loop invaraint unerased pointers out of the loops | 10:05 |
| hakanardo_ | since that would place them at the end of any bridge going to the loop | 10:06 |
| hakanardo_ | at which point the unerased pointers might point to some completpy different type of object | 10:06 |
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| fijal | cfbolz: did you rerun the benchmark run? | 10:13 |
| fijal | if not please do | 10:13 |
| cfbolz | now? | 10:18 |
| cfbolz | why not simply wait? | 10:18 |
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| bbot2 | Started: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-32/builds/953 [12Carl Friedrich Bolz] | 10:19 |
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| fijal | I don't know, sounds like a good idea to me :) | 10:24 |
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| lmatos | hiya! I'm trying to use pypy with django and running into some issues. I'm running arch and have pypy installed w/o python2. In the compatability guidelines for django it is a little ambiguous. It says install "both" does that mean both django & pypy or does that mean pypy and python2? | 11:06 |
| ronny | lmatos: pypy is a implementation of python2, so its fine | 11:08 |
| ronny | s/is/has/ | 11:08 |
| lmatos | ronny: that's what I thought. I'm pastie-ing my error now | 11:08 |
| lmatos | http://pastie.org/private/cg62xtz5v1ydhma6givca | 11:09 |
| lmatos | I'm running django in a virtualenv if that means anything. | 11:09 |
| ronny | lmatos: what python did you use to make the virtualenv? | 11:10 |
| ronny | lmatos: you need to make a virtualenv with pypy as the python if you ant to run the stuff from it | 11:11 |
| ronny | lmatos: the error you see is a plain and simple import error due to pythonpath/sys.path | 11:11 |
| lmatos | ronny: I'll try explictly declaring pypy. Thanks a bunch! I really appreciate it. | 11:12 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz disable_merge_different_int_types 1197c82160cdd7 15/pypy/rlib/rsocket.py: (bivab, cfbolz): be more consistent about unsignedness in rsocket | 11:18 |
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| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 11ffb908f712fe 15/: merge default (breaks some things, will fix in the next commit) | 11:35 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 11b40390f48b0d 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/optimizeopt/test/test_optimizebasic.py: can only untag odd ints | 11:35 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 117ef7273f3fcc 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/optimizeopt/intbounds.py: refactor the int_tag/untag optimization to fit the new style | 11:35 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 11a34d6a413e8a 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/optimizeopt/test/test_optimizeopt.py: same fix is needed here | 11:35 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 118c0f8d14997a 15/pypy/jit/metainterp/optimizeopt/: test and fix: make constand-folding of int_tag not crash | 11:35 |
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| bbot2 | 4Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-win-x86-64/builds/59 [12ctismer, win64-stage1] | 11:52 |
| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512765/ | 11:57 |
| fijal | this is slow | 11:57 |
| fijal | precisely the allocation inside the loop | 11:57 |
| fijal | we should do something with it | 11:57 |
| kenaan | 12fijal default 11c38223706f79 15/pypy/module/micronumpy/interp_numarray.py: oops, those two are unroll_safe | 12:04 |
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| bbot2 | 4Failure: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-64/builds/722 [12hakanardo, jit-targets] | 12:06 |
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| lmatos | Are any of you using pypy with postgres? | 12:18 |
| fijal | I know some people are | 12:23 |
| fijal | not me though | 12:23 |
| fijal | with the ctypes based postgres driver | 12:23 |
| lmatos | fijal: do you have a link to that driver? is this the one you speak of? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/psycopg2ct | 12:28 |
| fijal | there is a couple | 12:28 |
| fijal | this is one of them | 12:28 |
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| stakkars | hi | 12:52 |
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| lmatos | hi | 12:53 |
| stakkars | amaury__: hi | 12:54 |
| stakkars | I have a problem with win64 | 12:55 |
| stakkars | types expects the array length to be a types.c_long | 12:55 |
| stakkars | but this collides with the symbolic.py: | 12:57 |
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| stakkars | which asserts carry.lendth.size == WORD | 12:59 |
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| stakkars | arigato: hi | 13:31 |
| arigato | hi | 13:31 |
| stakkars | I'm a bit stuck, because I don't know how to treat array length correctly | 13:32 |
| stakkars | types uses types.c_long | 13:33 |
| stakkars | but symbolic.py wants carray.length == WORD | 13:34 |
| arigato | it should be a Signed | 13:35 |
| arigato | I don't care what ll2ctypes uses | 13:35 |
| arigato | ll2ctypes just needs to be hacked at | 13:35 |
| arigato | the rest should concistently use Signed | 13:35 |
| stakkars | ok? I was not sure if a different array layout will crash types, and the boehm gc | 13:36 |
| arigato | "types"? | 13:36 |
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| arigato | ok | 13:37 |
| arigato | ctypes doesn't know about our strange arrays that contain the length explicitly | 13:37 |
| arigato | it's all added by ll2ctypes | 13:37 |
| stakkars | ah, very good | 13:37 |
| stakkars | what about boehm, do I need to compile a hacked version or skip it, or will that be ok? | 13:38 |
| arigato | boehm does not care, either | 13:39 |
| stakkars | ok, useless question. What you said about ll2ctypes was the missing sopt | 13:39 |
| stakkars | thanks | 13:40 |
| stakkars | s/sopt/spot/ | 13:40 |
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| arigato | hakanardo__: I'm merging default into the branch jit-targets, it should at least fix one failure | 13:58 |
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| bbot2 | 3Success: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/jit-benchmark-linux-x86-32/builds/953 [12Carl Friedrich Bolz] | 14:22 |
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| fijal | hm | 14:31 |
| fijal | cfbolz: why did your run run on the same revision as the nightly??? | 14:32 |
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| fijal | grrr, simply no commits on trunk | 14:34 |
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| stakkars | arigato: should I hack the _setup_ctypes_cache() mapping | 14:37 |
| stakkars | and change lltype.Signed -> ctypes.c_long a bit? | 14:38 |
| Rhyolite | bivab: hi | 14:43 |
| bivab | Rhyolite: hi | 14:43 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: ping | 14:58 |
| fijal | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512765/ | 14:58 |
| fijal | this one is slow | 14:58 |
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| kenaan | 12arigo default 110bb2bc25fcfc 15/pypy/: (cfbolz, arigo) Un- and re-hack the implementation of space.is_w(). This version might be faster. | 15:51 |
| kenaan | 12arigo default 11b78a605fb452 15/pypy/: (cfbolz, arigo) An equivalent refactoring for id(). Also fixes an extremely obscure failure. | 15:51 |
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| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 11cfe174db963f 15/pypy/rpython/memory/gc/minimark.py: a tagged int cannot move | 15:57 |
| kenaan | 12cfbolz int-tag-untag-as-operations 118a15caf770b8 15/: merge | 15:57 |
| hakanardo_ | arigato: merging default sounds good :) | 15:57 |
| bbot2 | Started: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/1863 [12Carl Friedrich Bolz, int-tag-untag-as-operations] | 15:57 |
| arigato | hakanardo_: ok | 15:57 |
| kenaan | 12arigo jit-targets 11981a01601ac2 15/: hg merge default (a bit painfully) | 15:58 |
| arigato | a bit painful because of conflicts here and there | 15:58 |
| arigato | check_loops() should not be used any more? | 15:58 |
| hakanardo_ | yes, it's not merged since the sprint I think | 15:59 |
| hakanardo_ | it's check_resops now | 15:59 |
| hakanardo_ | and counts every resop | 15:59 |
| hakanardo_ | (not only the loop) | 15:59 |
| arigato | of course micronumpy evolved | 15:59 |
| arigato | test_zjit contains tons of new check_loops() | 15:59 |
| hakanardo_ | ok, there is a version of check_loops that prints the counts we want | 16:00 |
| hakanardo_ | under the assumption that the test works as it is supposed on default | 16:01 |
| hakanardo_ | it was killed in 03055b5850d3 | 16:03 |
| arigato | uh? | 16:04 |
| arigato | I'm looking at the branch jit-targets, though | 16:04 |
| arigato | is that wrong? | 16:04 |
| hakanardo_ | not if you want to fix the tests by hand | 16:05 |
| arigato | what is jit-refactor-tests? | 16:05 |
| hakanardo_ | if you want to run the psudo automatic hack we did you could use the jit-refactor-tests branch as an intermediate step | 16:06 |
| hakanardo_ | the intention of jit-refactor-tests was to refactor the test without changing any functionality | 16:06 |
| hakanardo_ | I suppose we should have merged it... | 16:06 |
| hakanardo_ | so what we could to is to rollback 03055b5850d3 on jit-refactor-tests | 16:07 |
| arigato | I suppose it can be merged *now* | 16:07 |
| hakanardo_ | then merge default in jit-refactor-tests | 16:07 |
| hakanardo_ | then run all the new test_zjit tests on it | 16:07 |
| hakanardo_ | that should print the counts needed | 16:07 |
| hakanardo_ | it the check_resops calls that should replace the check_loop calls | 16:08 |
| arigato | why does jit-targets still has the check_loops() version that 03055b5850d3 killed? | 16:08 |
| hakanardo_ | it does? | 16:08 |
| arigato | yes | 16:08 |
| hakanardo_ | hmm... | 16:08 |
| arigato | sorry, that's why I didn't follow you in the beginning | 16:09 |
| CIA-68 | 03serhat 07roundup * 10#940/Comparison with native application & cpython: | 16:10 |
| CIA-68 | [new] I wrote a tiny grep with multi-line match support, and compared its speed under | 16:10 |
| CIA-68 | pypy 1.7 with grep and CPython 2.7.1 (on ubuntu 11.04 lapt ... * 14https://bugs.pypy.org/issue940 | 16:10 |
| hakanardo_ | it dosnt make sens, maybe some merge messup? | 16:11 |
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| arigato | if you want to fix it, the next step would be to merge jit-refactor-tests into default, fixing the new usages of check_loops | 16:15 |
| arigato | (which I think is a good idea) | 16:16 |
| oal | Did you just remove some benchmarks? | 16:16 |
| hakanardo_ | ok, I could maybe have a go at that tomorrow | 16:17 |
| bbot2 | 13Exception: 15http://buildbot.pypy.org/builders/own-linux-x86-32/builds/1863 [12Carl Friedrich Bolz, int-tag-untag-as-operations] | 16:17 |
| arigato | thank you | 16:17 |
| oal | http://speed.pypy.org/ a few days ago, one of the benchmarks were at 1.0 (on the yellow line), but now none of them are even close... So, removed, or great improvement? | 16:17 |
| arigato | oal: "slowspitfire" improved by 12% today, I think | 16:18 |
| arigato | others were slowed down though. maybe we fixed that today, we'll see tomorrow | 16:19 |
| oal | arigato: ah, yeah, it was one of the middle ones, so that's likely the one. I usually visit the speed center every other day to see if there are any changes. :) | 16:19 |
| arigato | yes, today there were really changes, due to merging of the list-strategies branch | 16:19 |
| arigato | (it also gives the cool result that a list of integers really consumes the same memory than array.array('l')) | 16:20 |
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| oal | So it optimizes lists of only one data type, int, booleans? | 16:22 |
| arigato | only special cases: lists of ints, or lists of strs | 16:23 |
| oal | Ok :) | 16:23 |
| arigato | even lists of booleans are not special-cased, but the boolean objects are always shared, so it's not so bad | 16:23 |
| arigato | (of course with special-casing it could be turned into an array of bits) | 16:24 |
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| oal | I don't have a very good understanding of how the low level stuff works, but I find it very interesting that the improvements are this radical. I mean, it wasn't that long between 1.6 and 1.7 (?), and the benchmarks have improved a lot :) | 16:26 |
| arigato | yes :-) | 16:26 |
| zooko | :-) | 16:27 |
| zooko | You guys rock. | 16:27 |
| arigato | it's really caused by continously working on it, either in the JIT (adding more optimizations that make any code faster), or in the object space (adding new internal built-in types, like list-of-ints) | 16:27 |
| zooko | Seriously, I've been around the compsci/engineering scene for a few years, and the PyPy project is exceptional. | 16:28 |
| zooko | Way to go. | 16:28 |
| lucian | you guys do rock :) | 16:28 |
| oal | You deserve a big round of applause! :) | 16:28 |
| arigato | :-) | 16:28 |
| MostAwesomeDude | I also approve! :3 | 16:29 |
| Action: lmatos applauds | 16:29 | |
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| arigato | zooko: you can also look at it in the opposite way: we took forever to build the basics, but now that they are done, there are many many "relatively easy" optimizations | 16:30 |
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| arigato | gaining 30% in a few months of work by a small team is what you get on new projects, not on today's gcc | 16:31 |
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| zooko | arigato: interesting perspective! | 16:37 |
| kenaan | 12arigo default 1141640216dae5 15/pypy/module/_weakref/: Test and fix. | 16:37 |
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| santagada | its time to start helping pypy and enjoy the compliments :) | 16:51 |
| santagada | I'm a pypy hipster, I liked the project before it was fast | 16:52 |
| zooko | I just ran the setuptools unit tests on PyPy! | 16:52 |
| zooko | Found a bug. | 16:52 |
| zooko | In setuptools unit tests. | 16:52 |
| MostAwesomeDude | Bugs in setuptools? No way! | 16:52 |
| santagada | zooko, setuptools or distribute? | 16:52 |
| santagada | zooko, because they are fixing those in distribute | 16:53 |
| zooko | setuptools | 16:53 |
| santagada | zooko, the one that supports pypy somewhat is distribute | 16:53 |
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| zooko | santagada: thanks. | 16:55 |
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| arigato | Alex_Gaynor: re 5f1a23beccab | 17:34 |
| arigato | I don't understand how it's supposed to work | 17:34 |
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| arigato | "comparing a unicode char to str char" | 17:34 |
| arigato | is a messy operation anyway | 17:34 |
| arigato | e.g. the str char chr(128) is likely to be different than unichr(128) | 17:35 |
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| arigato | ah, you ended up commenting out anyway | 17:36 |
| arigato | but you didn't revert the changes in pypy/module/pypyjit/test_pypy_c/test_string.py | 17:36 |
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| fijal | hey | 18:18 |
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| fijal | zooko: why you think pypy is special? | 18:24 |
| fijal | or how do you observe it? | 18:24 |
| zooko | Seems to me a rare combination of (a) advanced "science" ideas, (b) rapid development i.e. the rapid performance increases we were talking about and (c) all the nuts and bolts of a real useful project -- test-drive development, compatibility, docs, error reporting, etc. etc. etc. that takes up the other 90% of the effort. | 18:26 |
| Action: fijal debates "rapid" in b) | 18:27 | |
| fijal | it took us forever to get the basics done as armin said | 18:28 |
| fijal | we also said "once we got the basics done, it's easy" | 18:28 |
| fijal | and noone believed | 18:28 |
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| santagada | a compiler translator that is fully tested... that seems special of pypy | 18:33 |
| santagada | rubinius is close on this, but then again, it is much smaller | 18:34 |
| Action: zooko nods | 18:34 | |
| fijal | it's also much less complex I bet | 18:35 |
| fijal | because it does not have the translation toolchain | 18:35 |
| fijal | zooko: ok, I get it | 18:35 |
| fijal | zooko: don't you think that "rapid development" comes from (a) and (c) really? | 18:35 |
| fijal | also, it's not like the group of people is *that* small | 18:35 |
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| santagada | yep... so it doesn't really compare | 18:37 |
| fijal | zooko: academics call us "no real science" | 18:39 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: pong | 18:40 |
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| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: have you seen my post? | 18:45 |
| fijal | it's ridiculously slow | 18:45 |
| Alex_Gaynor | err link? | 18:45 |
| fijal | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512765/ | 18:45 |
| Alex_Gaynor | can you paste the trace? | 18:46 |
| fijal | trace? | 18:46 |
| fijal | for slowness? | 18:47 |
| fijal | ah well | 18:47 |
| fijal | it's not the operation that's slow | 18:47 |
| Alex_Gaynor | yes | 18:47 |
| fijal | it's malloc | 18:47 |
| fijal | if you move a = zeros out of the loop it's fast | 18:47 |
| Alex_Gaynor | raw mallocing 10000 element array is slow? | 18:47 |
| fijal | repeateadly | 18:48 |
| Alex_Gaynor | so it's a GC issue? | 18:48 |
| Alex_Gaynor | armin and carl broke translation | 18:49 |
| zooko | fijal: ah. haha. :-) | 18:50 |
| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: :/ | 18:50 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: so you could remvoe addition and max from that example entirely? | 18:52 |
| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: yes | 18:53 |
| fijal | Alex_Gaynor: http://www.surf-forecast.com/breaks/Dungeons/photos/3883 | 18:54 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: flow objspace tests are broken, which is the cause of the broken translation | 18:55 |
| fijal | what did they do? | 18:55 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | fijal: it was their commit to optimize is_w | 18:55 |
| fijal | pfff | 18:56 |
| fijal | should they fix it or should we fix it? | 18:56 |
| fijal | or back it out | 18:56 |
| fijal | ? | 18:56 |
| Alex_Gaynor | fix would be best, I'm not sure how to do it myself | 18:56 |
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| zooko | Hm, I tried distribute instead of setuptools on santagada's suggestion (this channel earlier today), and it gives *different* errors when running its own unit tests under pypy 1.7. | 19:26 |
| zooko | Bleah. | 19:26 |
| zooko | I'm out of time for contributing patches to build/install tools for today... | 19:26 |
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