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kenaan03benjamin 10r6595014 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy 07M(pycode.py objects.py pycode.py serializer.py test_jit.py): make SPLI code objects SPLIObjects ...00:06
gutworthgrr. s_ImpossibleValue00:08
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fijalgutworth: you killed my clever hack :)00:10
fijalgutworth: ah00:10
fijalgutworth: now you need to add storing/retrieving names from serialize/deserialize00:11
fijalit was not needed00:11
fijalbut now it's needed00:11
gutworththat's exactly what I'm doing :)00:11
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fijalantocuni: are you using translations on bigdog-vm2?00:18
antocuniI have one that have been forked-before00:18
antocunido you want me to kill it?00:18
fijalin case you don't necesarilly need them, we're low on mem there00:18
fijalthx00:19
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fijalI'm debugging fully blown translation00:19
fijaland it eats quite a bit00:19
fijalof mem00:19
fijalI wonder if we can get bigger swap00:20
fijalbigdog: hey?00:20
fijalbah00:23
fijalfound a bug :-/00:24
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fijalgutworth: we can have a text format instead00:27
gutworthhow about xml? :)00:27
fijallet'00:28
fijals say no to xml!00:28
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kenaan03fijal 10r6595114 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/simple_optimize.py): Copy operations, even in simple_optimize ...00:30
fijalgrrr00:30
kenaan03fijal 10r6595214 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/simple_optimize.py): improve comment ...00:30
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kenaan03benjamin 10r6595314 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl/spli 07M(pycode.py serializer.py test_serializer.py test_translated.py): serialize co_names ...01:27
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kenaan03benjamin 10r6595414 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl/spli/interpreter.py): co_names_w -> co_names ...01:28
gutworthhah! all tests pass now :)01:28
kenaan03benjamin 10r6595514 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl/spli/interpreter.py): implement STORE_GLOBAL to get the annotator to generalize the global dict ...01:28
gutworthit would be nice sometimes to have hint(obj, initial_generalization=SomeObject())01:29
gutworthseems like less of a hack :P01:30
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kenaan03benjamin 10r6595614 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl/spli/targetspli.py): fix translation of target ...01:36
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fijalgutworth: ping01:42
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fijalk01:42
fijalwould be cool if we replicate the framestack thingie01:42
fijal(would be like-python)01:42
fijalso if you have an exception, you print a traceback out of framestack01:43
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gutworthfijal: good idea. I suppose we should just make a miny execution context02:06
fijalyeah02:07
fijalthat would also put us closer to what python does02:07
kenaan03benjamin 10r6595714 07M(pypy/trunk/pypy/translator/goal/translate.py): only start pdb on successful translation if it is requested ...02:07
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gutworthfijal: the virtualizable document should be updated02:47
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kenaan03cfbolz 10r6595814 07M(pypy/extradoc/sprintinfo/ep2009/people.txt): will definitely arrive later (if at all). ...10:12
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kenaan03arigo 10r6595914 07M(pypy/extradoc/talk/ep2009/status/status.txt): Be more vague about it, as recommended by Laura. ...10:40
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kenaan03arigo 10r6596014 07M(pypy/extradoc/talk/ep2009/status/pypy-status.pdf): Update the pdf. ...11:59
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kenaan03arigo 10r6596114 07M(pypy/extradoc/talk/ep2009/abstract.txt): Update with a link to the slides. ...12:29
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kenaan03antocuni 10r6596314 07M(pypy/extradoc/sprintinfo/ep2009/people.txt): I guess this was the real intention of r65958 :-) ...12:49
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Action: arigato sprained *again* his foot15:23
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zejnouch.15:24
arigatonot badly, but it hurts a lot to double-sprain it15:24
arigatoI just want to say "ouch! ouch! ouch!" to someone, now that pedronis left to a conference :-)15:25
zejnI'm glad I can help. :D15:25
arigato:-)15:25
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kenaan03arigo 10r6596414 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp 07M(codewriter.py pyjitpl.py test_virtualizable.py): Handle correctly the situation where we access another ...16:02
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fuzzymanarigato: when do you leave for EuroPython?16:59
arigatofuzzyman: sunday around 5pm17:12
fuzzymanoh right - see you on Sunday then :-)17:16
fuzzymanI'll be there from Saturday evening - I'm giving a tutorial on Sunday17:16
fuzzymanis Carl better yet?17:17
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arigatoI don't know :-(  no news from him17:24
arigatoit's a bit crazy if you ask me, to come to both EuroPython and ECOOP (Italy) which are one after the other17:24
arigatogiven that Carl never takes the plane17:24
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arigatoso I hope that he will at least feel well enough to come to one of these events17:25
fijalarigato: hi17:30
arigatohi!17:30
fijalarigato: welcome to the sprained-leg-club17:30
arigatobah :-)17:30
fijalhow did you do it?17:31
arigatoboth times, just misplacing my foot17:32
fijal:-/17:32
fijalI also misplaced my foot, but at least while falling from considerable height :)17:32
arigato:-\17:32
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fijalarigato: does your fix fixes the crash?17:34
arigatopossibly17:35
arigatoI did't try so far17:35
fijalok17:35
Action: fijal tries17:35
fijalthe crash with hybrid gc was stupid at best :-/17:36
arigatoyes, thanks for fixing it17:36
fijalarigato: if you want, spli breaks optimize.py17:36
fijal(or optimize4.py)17:36
fijalin test_jit17:36
fijaltl/spli/test/test_jit17:37
fijaljust disable usage of optimize217:37
arigatofor now I'm happy that test_virtualizable.py is actually a real unit test :-)17:37
fijalI know, you're telling me that second time :)17:38
arigatojust a matter of saying that I'm more happy continuing work on virtualizables than fixing bugs in optimize417:39
fijalright17:39
fijalwhat needs to be done? residual calls?17:39
kenaan03arigo 10r6596514 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/test_virtualizable.py): The next test. ...17:39
arigatothis17:39
fijalyou might want to think what to do with framestack at some point17:40
arigatoyes, but later17:40
fijalok17:40
fijalhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/125108/17:41
fijal^^^^ do you know why this creates 3 loops?17:41
arigatodepends how you count, I suppose17:41
fijal3 times assembler is called to compile a loop17:42
fijalso 1 is a loop and one is a bridge17:42
fijaland I have no clue what the 3rd one is17:42
fijalentry bridge?17:44
fijalbut why there is entry bridge?17:44
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fijalarigato: it does18:04
fijalarigato: == it fixes the problem18:07
fijalso we can run pystone and richards18:07
fijalcan I steal your attention for a moment?18:07
arigatono, pasta is requiring my attention any minute now :-)18:07
fijalok :)18:07
fijaltell me when you're back18:08
arigatook18:08
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antocunifijal: what are the performances of pystone and richards?18:15
fijalabsymal?18:15
fijalthey're slower than without jit18:15
antocuni:-/18:15
antocuniwhich optimize are you using?18:15
fijalnone/optimize218:15
antocuniah, ok18:15
fijal(it does not really matter)18:15
fijalanyway18:16
fijalthat won't help18:16
fijalthe basic example being a call18:16
fijalwe need to start from example that repeatedly calls simple helper18:16
fijaland I think without inlining optimize won't help18:17
antocuniinlining?18:17
fijalpython-level inlining18:17
antocunishoudln't it be done automatically because of the way tracing works?18:18
fijalmore or less yeah18:19
fijalthere is a couple of issues18:19
fijaland I want to wait till armin eats his whatever he's eating18:19
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arigatoback18:35
arigatobut sorry, I'm not completely up to discussing inlining18:35
fijalok18:36
fijalI can give it a try I guess18:36
fijalI was thinking whether making framestack a linked list would not help18:37
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fijalantocuni: do you think you can provide a working virtuals without perfect specialization?18:52
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antocunifijal: no, what I'm doing is to rewrite perfect specialization18:52
fijalbut perfect specialization as it is now inherits problems18:53
fijalthat needs to be tackled before doing that18:53
antocunifijal: sorry, I'm in a real hurry, need to go immediately18:53
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kenaan03fijal 10r6596614 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp 07M(codewriter.py pyjitpl.py): Change recursival_call to be written as recursive_call in graphs. Does not ...19:47
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kenaan03benjamin 10r6596714 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl/spli 05A(execution.py) 07M(interpreter.py objects.py targetspli.py test_interpreter.py test_serializer.py test_translated.py): add an execution context with a framestack ...20:01
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kenaan03fijal 10r6596914 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/tl 07M(tl.py tlc.py): Fix tests. Support virtualizables in tl correct way, disable ...20:49
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kenaan03arigo 10r6597014 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/rpython 07M(rclass.py rvirtualizable2.py rclass.py rvirtualizable2.py rvirtualizable2.py test_rvirtualizable2.py): Re-enable the production of 'promote_virtualizable'. ...21:46
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kenaan03fijal 10r6597114 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp 07M(history.py pyjitpl.py test_recursive.py): Basic inlining seems to work without any trouble. This is wrong so far, but ...21:58
fijalarigato: are you fine with my last checkin?21:58
arigatono test21:58
fijalno?21:58
fijaltest_recursive is not a test?21:58
arigatono21:59
arigatobecause it would pass in a much easier way21:59
fijalso what should be a test?21:59
fijalerr21:59
fijalright21:59
fijalthere are no asserts about calls21:59
fijalis this what you're talking about?21:59
arigatoyes21:59
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fijalsorry sorry21:59
arigato:-)21:59
fijalI was looking at graphs to write it down :)21:59
fijalbut forgotten to21:59
fijalbut otherwise?22:00
fijalit does not yet have a counter22:00
arigatoI suppose it's fine, as a first step, yes22:00
fijalnext step would be to add a counter (starting with a test)22:00
arigatocounting what?22:01
fijala recursion level22:01
arigatothat's not good enough22:01
fijalso we don't match the merge point with different recursion level22:01
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arigatoah, right -- a recursion flag then22:01
fijalit's more than a flag, it needs to be a counter22:02
arigatook22:02
fijalbasically the level of recursion should match22:02
arigatono, it needs to be zero22:02
arigatoyou cannot match two random different pieces of code if they happen to have the same counter22:03
fijalright22:03
fijalbut you would want to catch the inner loop22:04
arigatoyes and no22:04
arigatothe point is that as soon as you introduce inlining,22:04
arigatoyou need to add heuristics to avoid very long traces22:04
arigatonow the case where an inner function loops is supposed to be relatively rare22:05
fijalin this case, you usually hit the inner loop earlier, right?22:05
fijalyou should basically detect if inner loop has an assembler22:05
arigatoyes, as a regular loop, not as an inner loop at all22:05
fijalright22:05
fijaland if inner loop has an assembler, not inline it at all22:06
fijaldoes it make any sense?22:06
arigatoI don't know22:08
fijalOK22:08
fijalI might start then with kind of a psyco hack22:08
fijalonly inline if there is no JUMP_ABSOLUTE inside22:08
fijalthat sounds easy enough22:08
arigatohow?22:08
fijalyou require interpreter to provide a function for bytecode checker22:09
fijallike can_inline(code)22:09
fijalwhich will simply check it22:09
fijalsuper-explicit22:09
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arigatoobscure22:09
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fijala bit, yes22:09
fijalbut easy to change with something else22:09
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arigatoI'm temted to tell you "go into a branch" :-)22:10
fijallet's say that as soon as I introduce something more invasive I will go into the branch22:10
fijalok?22:10
arigatomore invasive than this obscure hack? :-/22:11
fijalhm22:11
fijalit might be a bit obscure22:11
fijalbut it's at least dead-simple22:11
arigatoI bet it will require a bit of tweaking all over the place22:11
arigatoI agree that it's simple22:12
fijalchanging a bit topic, people are amazed about dotviewer22:13
fijalthe assembler level dotviewer should more or less works with windows binary, right? (modulo obtaining assembler)22:13
arigato?22:13
arigatoyou cannot be talking about pypy/trunk/dotviewer/?22:14
fijalI'm talking about jit/backend/x86/viewcode.py22:14
arigatoah22:15
kenaan03fijal 10r6597214 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/test_recursive.py): check operations ...22:15
arigatoI suppose so, but there are heavy hacks about Windows in Psyco (where part of this code originally came from) which I've ignored22:15
fijalbut those hacks are about running psyco on windows or about interpreting this code by viewer?22:16
arigatoin viewcode.py22:16
fijalI mean, the target is to reuse the viewcode.py on assembler dump coming from somewhere else22:16
fijalok22:16
arigatoI don't remember which ones, maybe they don't apply or something22:17
fijalok22:17
arigatobut I certainly will never pretend anything is "just port it to Windows, it's trivial" :-)22:17
fijalI told the guy that he's free to try and come by here and share his experience22:17
fijalok :)22:17
arigatohe can definitely look in Psyco22:17
fijalother, slightly more clever hack, would be to raise in case we see can_enter_jit and restore the state and generate residual call22:19
fijalbut it's more involved22:19
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kenaan03fijal 10r6597314 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/test/test_recursive.py): refactor test a bit for the future reuse this interpreter ...22:27
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kenaan03arigo 10r6597414 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy 07M(codewriter.py test_virtualizable.py warmspot.py rvirtualizable2.py rvirtualizable2.py rvirtualizable2.py): Still in-progress. ...22:58
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kenaan03arigo 10r6597514 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/metainterp/executor.py): Minor detail. ...23:11
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kenaan03fijal 10r6597714 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy 07M(pyjitpl.py test_recursive.py warmspot.py jit.py): Enough of a hack for an interpreter to provide a simple check whether ...23:12
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kenaan03arigo 10r6597814 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/jit/backend/llgraph 07M(llimpl.py runner.py): Rename the 'type' field, which sometimes conflicts with ...23:16
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Action: gutworth finds these rtyper warnings a little disturbing23:22
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fijalgutworth: heh :023:25
gutworthhi23:25
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gutworth[rtyper:WARNING] prebuilt instance <pypy.jit.tl.spli.objects.SPLINone object at 0x72e8b0> has no attribute 'co_consts_w'23:32
gutworthmaybe because None is in co_const_w with Code?23:33
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fijalput an assert that a class that you want is a code class23:34
fijalbecause it gets promoted23:34
kenaan03fijal 10r6597914 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5/pypy/module/pypyjit 05A(test_can_inline.py) 07M(interp_jit.py): Implement inlining heuristics for pypy (without caching). Not that it is ...23:36
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gutworthI will just add as_interpclass()23:41
fijalfor example23:42
fijalwell no23:42
fijalyou really need an assert23:42
gutworthwhy does it have to be an assert?23:43
gutworthknowntypedata works on an isinstance23:43
gutworths/an/any/23:44
fijalisinstance is fine23:44
fijalit does not need to be as assert23:44
arigatobye23:46
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gutworthha. inlining must be really agreesive23:46
gutworth*agressive23:46
fijalgutworth: it does inline everything that has no loop23:46
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fijalI fear it'll inline recursion23:46
fijalhappily23:47
fijalanyway, we need to sort out other problems like virtuals23:47
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