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| kenaan | 03benjamin 10r6560814 pypy/branch/parser-compiler/pypy/interpreter/pyparser 05A(pygram.py) 07M(test_metaparser.py): test the metaparser by running it on Python grammar files ... | 00:42 |
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| kenaan | 03benjamin 10r6560914 07M(pypy/branch/parser-compiler/pypy/interpreter/pyparser/pygram.py): remove import ... | 00:43 |
| fijal | gutworth: I see you're having fun | 00:44 |
| Action: fijal tries to formulate rules for perfect specializer | 00:44 | |
| gutworth | yep | 00:44 |
| gutworth | I'm going to enjoy svn rming the old parser when I get to that | 00:45 |
| fijal | :] | 00:45 |
| fijal | svn rm is awesome | 00:45 |
| fijal | my favorite | 00:45 |
| fijal | mwhudson_: ping | 00:53 |
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| gutworth | can you store None in a variable which contains ints? | 01:43 |
| fijal | no | 01:44 |
| gutworth | I didn't think so | 01:44 |
| fijal | that's the main thing people bump into when trying to run existing programs in rpython | 01:44 |
| fijal | think about how this would look like in C | 01:44 |
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| kenaan | 03fijal 10r6561014 07M(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/metainterp/compile.py): actually pass guard_op instead of bridge. Change laying in my wc, changes ... | 01:50 |
| gutworth | I do, but I was almost hoping for r_int { int value; int is_none } | 01:50 |
| fijal | eh :) | 01:51 |
| fijal | cwillu: yes? | 01:51 |
| cwillu | ignore me, xchat opened to this channel, I saw None's being placed into int holders, and my fingers just did their thing | 01:52 |
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| fijal | cwillu: you're welcome :) | 01:52 |
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| fijal | raymondh: hi | 02:19 |
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| mwhudson_ | fijal: hi | 02:50 |
| getxsick | fijal: dong | 02:50 |
| fijal | getxsick: ding | 02:50 |
| fijal | mwhudson_: what would you do if I tell you that pyrepl is not behaving correctly with unicode input? | 02:51 |
| mwhudson_ | fijal: be a little bit surprised | 02:51 |
| mwhudson_ | it's possible your terminal doesn't use the encoding pyrepl expects | 02:51 |
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| fijal | mwhudson_: basically possible | 02:52 |
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| fijal | oh no | 02:52 |
| fijal | wrong | 02:52 |
| fijal | I cannot use xkbmap I would expect to use | 02:52 |
| fijal | it gets confused if I press Alt-stuff | 02:52 |
| fijal | ó | 02:55 |
| fijal | like this | 02:56 |
| fijal | 02:56 | |
| fijal | or this | 02:56 |
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| fijal | heh :) | 03:44 |
| fijal | gutworth: what do you think about unicode having new method btw? | 03:49 |
| raymondh | mwhudson_: ping | 03:56 |
| mwhudson_ | raymondh: hi | 03:57 |
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| raymondh | Here's a link to the contributor form: http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ | 03:58 |
| raymondh | The instructions and the snailmail address or fax number is on http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/ | 03:58 |
| fijal | mwhudson: are you a contributor? | 04:00 |
| mwhudson | fijal: well, i have contributed a lot | 04:00 |
| mwhudson | not recently | 04:00 |
| fijal | right | 04:00 |
| fijal | but does it mean you need to sign it post-factum? | 04:00 |
| fijal | mwhudson: weren't you involved in zombie frame opt? | 04:01 |
| fijal | I'm wondering how to achieve effect of not allocating frame for the jit | 04:03 |
| raymondh | Just mark on the form that it for past contributions as well as future. | 04:03 |
| mwhudson | fijal: need, probably not | 04:05 |
| mwhudson | but it's a good thing if i do | 04:06 |
| mwhudson | raymondh: ok | 04:06 |
| raymondh | Thx! :-) | 04:06 |
| fijal | raymondh: do you know how psyco handles this case? | 04:06 |
| fijal | provided it does not inline a function | 04:06 |
| raymondh | Which case? | 04:06 |
| fijal | the case when you have to call something | 04:06 |
| fijal | and you call it pretty often | 04:06 |
| fijal | do you allocate the frame for the callee? | 04:06 |
| fijal | because psyco only inlines functions that has no control structures, is this correct? | 04:08 |
| raymondh | i don't remember. | 04:08 |
| fijal | k | 04:09 |
| fijal | so you're not working on psyco any more :) | 04:09 |
| raymondh | stopped about a year ago and handed it off to tismer | 04:09 |
| raymondh | learned a valuable lesson | 04:09 |
| fijal | which is? | 04:10 |
| raymondh | never wary of mucking with code where the words psuedo, virtual, and meta all appear in the same sentence ;-) | 04:10 |
| fijal | hehehehe | 04:10 |
| fijal | well, psyco is probably too smart for it's own sanity | 04:11 |
| raymondh | also, if the original author abandoned a project, perhaps it was for good reason | 04:11 |
| fijal | I think it's really bad psyco never had any reasonable contribution when armin was still working on it | 04:12 |
| fijal | this might have improved things | 04:12 |
| raymondh | I think not. It is very fragile code and hard to contribute to. | 04:16 |
| fijal | do you think it is fragile because of technical limitations of the code or it is fragile because writing a jit for python is hard? | 04:17 |
| fijal | or is it fragile because it tries to both have a jit and integrate with cpython? | 04:17 |
| raymondh | No, the problem is that it is easy to make mistakes with compiler assumptions and then get failures that are far removed from the code that caused them. | 04:22 |
| fijal | so it is inherent problem with compiler? | 04:23 |
| raymondh | No, just the metalanguage for writing psyco has few clues if get the tiniest thing wrong. | 04:27 |
| fijal | metalanguage? | 04:28 |
| raymondh | I'm the wrong person to ask about it though. I never did develop sufficient understanding to grok psyco as a whole. | 04:28 |
| fijal | is there any good person to ask though? | 04:30 |
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| raymondh | armin! | 04:31 |
| raymondh | or you can load the pysco source tree, and use it's disassembler to get a view of exactly what it is doing. | 04:32 |
| fijal | well, as you said, he left for a reason | 04:32 |
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| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6561314 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 07M(runner.py test_runner.py): Rewrite the LLVM logic so that execute_operations() is no longer a simple ... | 11:57 |
| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6561414 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 07M(runner.py test_runner.py): Finish the refactoring, and add a test that goes twice through the ... | 12:08 |
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| lesshaste | hi | 14:00 |
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| arigato | hi | 14:28 |
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| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6561514 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 05A(test_1st.py) 06D(test_runner.py) 07M(llvm_rffi.py runner.py test_llvm_rffi.py): Rename test_runner to test_1st. ... | 14:41 |
| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6561614 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 05A(test_runner.py) 07M(llvm_rffi.py runner.py): Start porting runner_test.py. ... | 14:49 |
| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6561714 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 07M(llvm_rffi.py runner.py test_runner.py): Pass test_binary_operations. ... | 14:51 |
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| fijal | hi | 15:39 |
| fijal | arigato: I fixed a bug you described | 15:43 |
| fijal | but it still explodes with something else | 15:43 |
| arigato | ah | 15:47 |
| arigato | I wouldn't mind getting slightly more information | 15:47 |
| arigato | e.g. which bug? | 15:47 |
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| fijal | the one about gc&jit interaction you described | 15:49 |
| kenaan | 03david 10r6561914 07M(pypy/branch/io-lang/pypy/lang/io/objspace.py): Add Number to the slots of Core ... | 15:56 |
| kenaan | 03david 10r6562014 pypy/branch/io-lang/pypy/lang/io 07M(model.py number.py test_number.py): Added methods asNumber, divide and multiply to Number ... | 15:58 |
| fijal | arigato: so basically you can try to debug next segfault :) | 15:58 |
| kenaan | 03david 10r6562114 05A(pypy/branch/io-lang/pypy/lang/io/io/Number.io): Import io-Number extensions from io repository ... | 15:59 |
| fijal | arigato: I'm trying to fix virtualizables | 16:00 |
| kenaan | 03fijal 10r6562214 05A(pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/metainterp/doc/matching_rules.txt): rules for matching spec nodes ... | 16:01 |
| arigato | fijal: are you talking about a fix you did ~2 days ago? | 16:02 |
| arigato | or more recently? | 16:02 |
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| fijal | that one, yes | 16:04 |
| arigato | ok | 16:05 |
| arigato | the next bug is caused by invalid tracing | 16:06 |
| arigato | more precisely, by tracing going into invalid paths | 16:06 |
| arigato | I have no clue at all if that's caused by a bug in the backend, or if it's really a bug in the frontend | 16:06 |
| fijal | :-/ | 16:06 |
| arigato | so end of story, kind of | 16:06 |
| fijal | why? | 16:06 |
| fijal | you don't feel like debugging it? | 16:07 |
| fijal | what about minimal backend with moving gc? | 16:07 |
| arigato | well, because I don't feel like spending large amounts of time debugging it | 16:07 |
| arigato | there are not really enough tests around to be sure that things are correct | 16:07 |
| fijal | tests for what? | 16:07 |
| arigato | for everything -- in particular for the x86 backend | 16:08 |
| fijal | write more | 16:08 |
| fijal | for everything | 16:08 |
| arigato | well, yes, but something is still wrong | 16:08 |
| arigato | we are supposed to write tests first :-) | 16:08 |
| arigato | it's a real pain to write tests now for all the paths in the x86 backend | 16:09 |
| fijal | we do | 16:09 |
| fijal | test_random has all paths | 16:09 |
| arigato | well, test_random is not really testing everything | 16:09 |
| arigato | but I see the point | 16:10 |
| arigato | maybe I could try test_random with the moving GCs, or something like that | 16:10 |
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| kenaan | 03arigo 10r6562414 pypy/branch/pyjitpl5-experiments/pypy/jit/backend/llvm 07M(demo1.c demo2.cpp demo2.h llvm_rffi.py test_llvm_rffi.py): Add the LLVM_Intrinsic_add_ovf() function, returning the intrinsic function ... | 16:22 |
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| fijal | arigato: yes | 16:42 |
| fijal | arigato: I'm not saying by any chance that work on llvm backend makes no sense though | 16:43 |
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| fijal | gutworth: hi | 16:48 |
| gutworth | hi | 16:49 |
| gutworth | how are you? | 16:49 |
| arigato | hi | 16:51 |
| fijal | gutworth: good, heading to rocky mountain national park | 16:51 |
| gutworth | oh, fun | 16:52 |
| gutworth | I was there last summer | 16:52 |
| fijal | heh, we should have met :) | 16:53 |
| fijal | I was there a lot last June | 16:53 |
| gutworth | which mountains are you going to climb? | 16:55 |
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| fijal | small ones | 16:56 |
| fijal | chaos canyon | 16:56 |
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| fijal | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YuqDv2tXWPk/RrJlf2Up6HI/AAAAAAAABY4/h25n3ZtVCwk/s400/RMNP+063re.jpg | 16:57 |
| fijal | like long's peak? | 16:57 |
| gutworth | yes, I did that one last year | 16:57 |
| gutworth | oh, more vertical climbing :) | 16:58 |
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| gutworth | how do I get py.test to not reduce the repr size? | 20:59 |
| gutworth | ah, codespeak is down :( | 21:08 |
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| kenaan | 03benjamin 10r6562914 07M(pypy/branch/parser-compiler/pypy/interpreter/pyparser/metaparser.py): fix small logic error ... | 21:34 |
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