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| santagada | what does this error means: OperationError: [<W_TypeObject(AttributeError)>: W_StringObject("'fake_os' object has no attribute 'OSError'")] | 03:35 |
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| santagada | I was trying to translate pypy | 03:35 |
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| stakkars | hum | 04:16 |
| stakkars | probably my fault... | 04:17 |
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| stakkars | panni_: hello? | 04:40 |
| amitReg | python for .NET problem "Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: python23" | 04:43 |
| amitReg | seems like my python2.5 installation wont work. any quick suggestion ? anyone ? | 04:44 |
| stakkars | yes, obviously python2.3 is registered, python2.5 is not | 04:44 |
| stakkars | you need to dig deeper and tell us more specific info | 04:46 |
| stakkars | amitReg: tell me more! | 04:47 |
| amitReg | stakkars: downloaded pythonnet-1.0-rc2-py2.3-clr1.1 and I am trying to fix this with mono so that I can play around with cli module | 04:48 |
| stakkars | I see. py2.3 probably won't serve you. | 04:49 |
| amitReg | what else do I need to fix up. | 04:51 |
| stakkars | I hven't tried this, ever. but maybe checking paths would help. | 04:51 |
| stakkars | look at $PYTHONPATH | 04:52 |
| amitReg | echo $PATHONPATH = NULL | 04:53 |
| amitReg | echo $PATH ... has no path for python. I think that's the problem. | 04:53 |
| stakkars | sure. a typo | 04:53 |
| amitReg | but again DLLnotfound error clearly says python2.3 | 04:54 |
| amitReg | I'll give it a shot anyways. | 04:54 |
| amitReg | :) | 04:54 |
| stakkars | which OS? | 04:54 |
| amitReg | Ubuntu. | 04:54 |
| stakkars | tell me "which python" and related things | 04:55 |
| amitReg | python -V = 2.5.1 | 04:55 |
| stakkars | how do you start pythonnet? | 04:55 |
| amitReg | mono JIT compiler 1.2.4 | 04:55 |
| stakkars | commandline? | 04:56 |
| amitReg | the whole struggle is to make the "import clr" line work. | 04:56 |
| stakkars | hrmpff | 04:57 |
| amitReg | mono python.exe | 04:57 |
| stakkars | thanks | 04:57 |
| stakkars | and that exe is python2.5? | 04:57 |
| amitReg | nope. that should be an installer for pythonnet. | 04:58 |
| stakkars | try the same with an explicit reference to your global installed versions. | 04:59 |
| amitReg | hope that works. | 05:00 |
| stakkars | ah | 05:00 |
| amitReg | will try that. | 05:00 |
| stakkars | any results? | 05:04 |
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| amitReg | results = NULL ... me too going to bed. | 05:10 |
| amitReg | gn | 05:10 |
| amitReg | stakkars: and thanks. | 05:10 |
| stakkars | bad | 05:10 |
| stakkars | sorry | 05:10 |
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| stakkars | slep well, let's resolve it tomorrow | 05:11 |
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| lac | I'm awake now. | 08:03 |
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| roadshowtone | lac - r48264 - Latest attempt at 3 slides covering 'motivation', except that it doesn't quite do that any more. This may be ok. | 09:13 |
| roadshowtone | arigo - r48265 - This is supposedly the official way to know if we are running on NT or Posix. Althought I cannot find right now the code in PyPy that would expose 'module/posix' under the name 'nt' I guess it must b | 09:24 |
| roadshowtone | pedronis - r48266 - some rough technical meat for the ibm talk before I forget about it (samuele, slitghtly more lucid than yesterday) | 09:38 |
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| cfbolz | morning! | 10:44 |
| cfbolz | pedronis: +- Obviously in the PE based generated Dynamic Compilers | 10:45 |
| cfbolz | this doesn't make sense to me | 10:45 |
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| cfbolz | hi anto! | 10:47 |
| antocuni | hi carl! | 10:47 |
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| antocuni | cfbolz: do you know if hhu has got some windows licenses? | 11:37 |
| cfbolz | huh | 11:38 |
| cfbolz | no clue | 11:38 |
| antocuni | I was thinking to put a virtualbox on wyvern or cobra or whatever | 11:38 |
| antocuni | to test windows stuff | 11:38 |
| antocuni | but we need a license, of course | 11:39 |
| cfbolz | ah, I can discuss with michaeL next time | 11:39 |
| antocuni | it would be nice | 11:39 |
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| cfbolz | antocuni: yes, indeed | 11:56 |
| cfbolz | antocuni: I just don't know how easy we can log in there | 11:56 |
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| antocuni | cfbolz: you mean in the windows inside virtaulbox? | 12:03 |
| cfbolz | yes | 12:03 |
| antocuni | well, with cygwin you can have ssh accounts | 12:04 |
| cfbolz | sure, but how helpful is htat | 12:04 |
| antocuni | for administration, not much | 12:04 |
| cfbolz | i guess vnc or so would be good | 12:04 |
| antocuni | but for normal work it should be enough | 12:04 |
| antocuni | and yes, I though about vnc for the graphical stuffs | 12:04 |
| xorAxAx | doesnt HHU participate in the MSDNAA program? | 12:05 |
| cfbolz | xorAxAx: what's that? | 12:06 |
| xorAxAx | cfbolz: microsoft hands out licenses of microsoft stuff to students of universities which participate in this program | 12:07 |
| cfbolz | I am not sure we could use such a license | 12:07 |
| cfbolz | it's about a uni pc | 12:07 |
| xorAxAx | only students are allowed to use it, yeah | 12:08 |
| antocuni | well, if we put virtualbox in my home dir we could argue that the pc is mine | 12:08 |
| antocuni | don't know how much sense it makes, though :-) | 12:08 |
| cfbolz | antocuni: you are not a student :-) | 12:09 |
| antocuni | pity! | 12:09 |
| antocuni | mv ~antocuni/virtualbox ~cfbolz | 12:09 |
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| cfbolz | antocuni: you cannot write in my home dir | 12:11 |
| cfbolz | :) | 12:11 |
| antocuni | I've a root account on wyvern! :-) | 12:12 |
| cfbolz | damn | 12:12 |
| antocuni | rm -rf ~cfbolz | 12:12 |
| antocuni | btw, it looks like msdnaa licenses are not only for students | 12:13 |
| antocuni | MSDN Academic Alliance (MSDNAA) is a Microsoft program which provides some Microsoft developer tools for free to students and faculty | 12:13 |
| antocuni | from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSDN_Academic_Alliance | 12:13 |
| cfbolz | ah | 12:14 |
| xorAxAx | ok :) | 12:15 |
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| antocuni | hi leonardo! | 13:17 |
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| santagada | antocuni: hi | 13:47 |
| santagada | i'm still trying to get pygame and boehm running on leopard | 13:53 |
| santagada | stakkars: are you using leopard now? | 13:54 |
| santagada | antocuni: do you know what versions of boehmgc are supported in pypy? because I can't get it to work with 7.0, maybe I should try 6 | 14:09 |
| antocuni | santagada: I'm using 6.7 and it works fine | 14:29 |
| antocuni | no clue about mac os though | 14:29 |
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| amitReg | Hi all | 14:30 |
| antocuni | hi | 14:31 |
| amitReg | antocuni: I tried to install python.net with momo. and ended up with "dllnotfound error: python23" | 14:32 |
| amitReg | momo=mono | 14:32 |
| amitReg | I have python2.5.1 | 14:32 |
| antocuni | amitReg: http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/cli-backend.html | 14:33 |
| antocuni | look at the last paragraph | 14:33 |
| antocuni | you should use python 2.4 btw | 14:33 |
| antocuni | I don't know if pythonnet works with python 2.5 | 14:33 |
| antocuni | also, you are trying to use the version for python 2.3, but you should really use the version for python 2.4 | 14:34 |
| amitReg | antocuni: oh ok. will try that. | 14:36 |
| cfbolz | amitReg: it's rather easy to get python2.4 with ubuntu | 14:36 |
| amitReg | cfbolz: I will try with 2.4 thanks. :) | 14:37 |
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| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48267 - a so far very simplistic analysis to find potential coallocation sites | 15:14 |
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| cfbolz | hi michael! | 15:21 |
| mwhudson | hello | 15:21 |
| antocuni | hi michael! | 15:21 |
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| amitReg | antocuni: I am getting entrypoint not found exception for ........ mono python.exe | 16:21 |
| amitReg | i will tell u what i did. | 16:21 |
| amitReg | ln -s /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 ./python24 | 16:22 |
| amitReg | made the config file as mentioned in http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/cli-backend.html | 16:22 |
| amitReg | any clue | 16:22 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48268 - add coalloc support to the llinterp | 16:22 |
| amitReg | installed python 2.4 but still Python -V gives me 2.5.1 | 16:25 |
| amitReg | :( | 16:25 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48269 - replace mallocs by coallocs | 16:26 |
| cfbolz | amitReg: you can run python2.4 or change the /usr/bin/python symlink | 16:27 |
| amitReg | cfbolz: tried that thanks. but still I get "Unhandled Exception: System.EntryPointNotFoundException: PyUnicodeUCS2_FromUnicode" | 16:33 |
| cfbolz | huh | 16:35 |
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| amitReg | that exception is for " mono python.exe " | 16:36 |
| xorAxAx | cfbolz: what is a coalloc? | 16:46 |
| cfbolz | xorAxAx: www.cs.utexas.edu/~sammy/cronies-oopsla-2004.pdf | 16:52 |
| xorAxAx | cool | 16:55 |
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| antocuni | amitReg: I think you have to compile python by yourself | 17:19 |
| antocuni | it seems that pythonnet wants python to be compiled with ucs2 support | 17:20 |
| antocuni | while ubuntu ships python without it | 17:20 |
| antocuni | I also had the same problem | 17:20 |
| antocuni | but with gentoo it's easy to fix, just a command line option when installing | 17:21 |
| amitReg | :) ... oh. | 17:21 |
| amitReg | in that case I will install 2.3 .. coz I have 2.4 and 2.5 already .. :) lol | 17:22 |
| antocuni | amitReg: I'm not sure pypy will work with 2.3 | 17:22 |
| amitReg | oh no ... I need 2.4 ... coz I have .net package for 2.4 | 17:22 |
| amitReg | :( | 17:23 |
| amitReg | oh well... 2.4 is better. | 17:23 |
| antocuni | I think that the alternative is to compile pythonnet by yourself | 17:23 |
| antocuni | but it's not straightforward, because the makefile is not portable | 17:23 |
| amitReg | I tried that... it failed with some *.il file missing error. | 17:24 |
| antocuni | amitReg: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythondotnet/2007-July/000650.html | 17:25 |
| antocuni | that's exactly your problem | 17:25 |
| amitReg | you got to the same place where i was 30 mins back. :) .. | 17:27 |
| amitReg | it does not give a solution though. | 17:27 |
| amitReg | :) | 17:27 |
| antocuni | well, the solution is to compile python with support for ucs2 | 17:28 |
| amitReg | will do that. | 17:28 |
| antocuni | I suggest to do it by yourself and put the resulting python into its own directory | 17:28 |
| antocuni | not to conflict with ubuntu's own version | 17:28 |
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| xorAxAx | antocuni: you can achieve that by using --prefix=/usr/local/ | 17:32 |
| antocuni | I know | 17:32 |
| antocuni | though I usually prefer to use something like /opt/python2.4-ucs2 or so | 17:33 |
| xorAxAx | yeah, its just important to do it in the configure stage | 17:34 |
| xorAxAx | "put" could have also meant to move it afterwards | 17:34 |
| antocuni | ah, sure | 17:34 |
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| amitReg | antocuni: I got it fixed .. wohoooooooooo !!!! | 17:47 |
| amitReg | * goes cooking | 17:47 |
| cfbolz | amitReg: cool! | 17:51 |
| antocuni | amitReg: cool! | 17:55 |
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| antocuni | cfbolz: if you feel like to review my proposal again, it's almost complete now | 18:04 |
| Action: antocuni afk | 18:05 | |
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| cfbolz | antocuni: ok | 18:07 |
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| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48271 - another test, tweaks | 18:16 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48272 - another working test | 18:17 |
| amitReg | antocuni: another hurdle. for the line ">>>> ArrayList = clr.load_cli_class('System.Collections', 'ArrayList')" i got ImportError: cannot import name FunctionMixin | 18:19 |
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| roadshowtone | tismer - r48273 - relaxing test that depends on filenames in windows. os.abspath is incompatible with autopath right now. The real fix is to implement _getfullpathname . The provided fallback in ntpath is pretty insuff | 18:37 |
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| antocuni | amitReg: uh, that looks like a bug :-( | 18:57 |
| amitReg | antocuni: i did " mono python.exe ../../py.py --withmod-clr | 18:59 |
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| antocuni | amitReg: it works fine for me! | 18:59 |
| amitReg | antocuni: same error for >>>> Math = clr.load_cli_class('System', 'Math') | 19:00 |
| amitReg | :(( boo hoo | 19:00 |
| cfbolz | :-( | 19:04 |
| amitReg | antocuni: it seems even the basic netpython is not working fine ... from System import String ... this gives no module named System. | 19:07 |
| amitReg | :P | 19:07 |
| antocuni | amitReg: ah, so it's not a pypy problem | 19:07 |
| antocuni | ah no, sorry | 19:08 |
| antocuni | you need to do from CLR import System | 19:08 |
| Action: antocuni tries to update svn | 19:08 | |
| amitReg | yeah.. I got that running now. | 19:08 |
| antocuni | amitReg: could you show me the full traceback please? | 19:08 |
| amitReg | :) ... and i updated SVN .. lately | 19:09 |
| amitReg | where do I paste it ? | 19:09 |
| cfbolz | paste.pocoo.org | 19:09 |
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| amitReg | antocuni: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/8853/ | 19:11 |
| antocuni | uh, it looks like a py.test issue | 19:12 |
| antocuni | but I don't know why py.test comes here | 19:12 |
| antocuni | amitReg: the problem is that you don't have gmcs on your path | 19:13 |
| antocuni | (I guess) | 19:13 |
| cfbolz | antocuni: your fault! | 19:13 |
| cfbolz | oyu are calling py.test.skip | 19:13 |
| antocuni | why? | 19:13 |
| cfbolz | :-) | 19:13 |
| cfbolz | in sdk.py | 19:14 |
| antocuni | ah! | 19:14 |
| cfbolz | hah | 19:14 |
| antocuni | ah, because I assumed that sdk would have been called from a test | 19:14 |
| amitReg | antocuni: oh heavens ... I have mcs with the default mono installation ... | 19:14 |
| amitReg | antocuni: do I need gmcs ?? | 19:14 |
| antocuni | yes | 19:14 |
| antocuni | gmcs is the compiler with support for .net 2.0 | 19:15 |
| antocuni | what version of mono do you have? | 19:15 |
| antocuni | cfbolz: I would not know how to solve, honestly | 19:15 |
| amitReg | 1.2.4 | 19:15 |
| Action: antocuni hates ubuntu | 19:15 | |
| amitReg | I do this automatic installation of Ubuntu .. I don't know what it does internally ... | 19:16 |
| antocuni | well, it should install *both* mcs and gmcs | 19:16 |
| amitReg | antocuni: not yet ... but i guess I will start too .. :P | 19:16 |
| cfbolz | antocuni: you are misguided :-) | 19:16 |
| cfbolz | amitReg: you _can_ install both easily | 19:16 |
| cfbolz | let me check the package name | 19:16 |
| antocuni | mono-gmcs | 19:16 |
| amitReg | cfbolz: hail cfbolz | 19:16 |
| cfbolz | roadshowtone: os | 19:17 |
| amitReg | sounds like that's the culprit | 19:17 |
| roadshowtone | Sun Solaris is clearly the worst operating system ever | 19:17 |
| cfbolz | antocuni: yes, that sounds good | 19:17 |
| antocuni | but well, py.py should print a better error message, for sure | 19:17 |
| antocuni | how can I know if I'm inside a test or not? | 19:18 |
| amitReg | install in progress | 19:18 |
| cfbolz | you can't | 19:18 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48274 - woops, check whether the malloc we are trying to replace is the correct one. | 19:18 |
| amitReg | antocuni: Got it running .............. :) | 19:21 |
| cfbolz | cool | 19:21 |
| antocuni | horray! | 19:22 |
| roadshowtone | tismer - r48275 - some of the test cases see to have trouble with imports. "from pypy.rlib.objectmodel import we_are_translated" caused test_options_u_PYTHONINSPECT to fail. | 19:22 |
| Action: antocuni afk again | 19:23 | |
| amitReg | what is afk ?? | 19:23 |
| cfbolz | away from keyboard | 19:24 |
| amitReg | how did that msg appear with a * on the left instead of name ? | 19:25 |
| idnar | /me | 19:25 |
| idnar | also known as CTCP ACTION | 19:26 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48276 - fix two wrong tests, and the code | 19:26 |
| xorAxAx | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 19:26 |
| xorAxAx | oops | 19:26 |
| Action: amitReg horrified. | 19:26 | |
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| Action: santagada is sorry to have upgraded to leopard | 19:35 | |
| Action: amitReg sympathizes santagada | 19:36 | |
| cfbolz | santagada: hah! too much mac-fanboyism is a bad thing | 19:36 |
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| santagada | really, I don't know how to make this freaking boehm gc work... It needs a gc_local_alloc.h but it is not part of the download, maybe it is auto-generated but it is not anymore | 19:37 |
| xorAxAx | never doubt of saint jobs | 19:37 |
| santagada | boehm gc 6.8 don't compile | 19:38 |
| santagada | I give up | 19:38 |
| roadshowtone | cfbolz - r48277 - some fixes necessary to make coallocation with dictionaries work. | 19:39 |
| santagada | cfbolz: don't kick me while I am down | 19:44 |
| cfbolz | santagada: it's not like it's the first time I said this :-) | 19:44 |
| santagada | cfbolz: I know | 19:45 |
| cfbolz | anyway, I know this feeling | 19:46 |
| cfbolz | and it doesn't only happen with macs | 19:46 |
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| santagada | cfbolz: do you know how to ask a distutils app to look for libraries on other directories like -I and -L for gcc? | 19:47 |
| santagada | I am a distutils setup.py | 19:48 |
| cfbolz | no clue | 19:48 |
| santagada | s/am/mean | 19:48 |
| santagada | that sucks, I can't get pygame to run also | 19:48 |
| Action: santagada hates pygame (python really needs a better suported 2d graphics lib) | 19:50 | |
| Action: santagada thinks that a good 3d engine would not hurt either | 19:51 | |
| cfbolz | pygames is well supported | 19:52 |
| cfbolz | just not on mac | 19:52 |
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| antocuni | santagada: I downloaded gc6.8.tar.gz | 20:13 |
| antocuni | gc_local_alloc.h is inside include/ | 20:13 |
| antocuni | cfbolz: what is coalloc? | 20:13 |
| santagada | antocuni: but it doesnt support macintel I think | 20:14 |
| antocuni | ah, maybe; I was just commenting your claim that gc_local_alloc.h is not part of the download | 20:15 |
| santagada | antocuni: not part of gc7.0 | 20:16 |
| antocuni | ok | 20:16 |
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| cfbolz | antocuni: see the paper at: www.cs.utexas.edu/~sammy/cronies-oopsla-2004.pdf | 20:19 |
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| mwh | grr | 21:07 |
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| santagada | mwhudson: hi | 21:21 |
| santagada | mwhudson: having network problems? | 21:21 |
| mwhudson | santagada: hello | 21:21 |
| mwhudson | santagada: yes, you could say that | 21:22 |
| mwhudson | the wireless here is veeeery overloaded, and my drivers seem unhappy about that | 21:22 |
| santagada | mwhudson: where you are? | 21:23 |
| mwhudson | santagada: between uds and canonical's allhands | 21:23 |
| santagada | ahh ok, I thought you went with the roadshow | 21:24 |
| mwhudson | nah | 21:24 |
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| mwhudson | roadshowtone: vcs | 21:32 |
| roadshowtone | SCCS is clearly the best VCS ever | 21:32 |
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| santagada | roadshowtone: vcs | 22:06 |
| roadshowtone | copying files around is clearly the best VCS ever | 22:06 |
| santagada | hahaha got to love the bot | 22:06 |
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| santagada | it took me actually reading the source of ansi_print to realize that those strangedots were in fact a fractal | 22:07 |
| santagada | translating jsinterp only show a handfull of those | 22:08 |
| santagada | well got pygame installed | 22:19 |
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| alon_ | Hi | 23:47 |
| xorAxAx | hi alon_ | 23:47 |
| alon_ | hi xorAxAx. | 23:48 |
| alon_ | I was creating a list with instances that do not share a base class - is that RPython or not? because of it is, then it shouldn't have gotten me a MemoryError, and if it isn't, it shouldn't have been translatable, right? | 23:49 |
| xorAxAx | thats not rpython because your objects will degrade to someobject | 23:49 |
| xorAxAx | and the memoryerror seems to be some exception handling issue | 23:49 |
| xorAxAx | i wrote a pretty small way to reproduce it but armin didnt have time to have a look at it | 23:50 |
| alon_ | can you take a look if I paste it in pastebin? | 23:50 |
| xorAxAx | yes | 23:50 |
| alon_ | thanks, a moment | 23:50 |
| alon_ | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/8894/ | 23:51 |
| xorAxAx | yes, as i said, its not rpython :) | 23:52 |
| alon_ | ok, thanks for the clarification. | 23:52 |
| alon_ | at the same time, is there any way to store a list of methods in a list? | 23:53 |
| alon_ | (in RPython of course) | 23:53 |
| xorAxAx | well, bound methods to non-constant instances? | 23:54 |
| alon_ | yes | 23:54 |
| xorAxAx | hmm, you could store the instances and the unboundmethod | 23:54 |
| xorAxAx | in 2 lists | 23:54 |
| alon_ | like: a=A(); b=B(); l=[a.f,b.f] | 23:54 |
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| alon_ | I need to be able to call them (actually storing works, I know - the calling fails..) | 23:55 |
| alon_ | I want to go: for x in l: x() | 23:55 |
| alon_ | of course, that fails in simplecall. | 23:55 |
| xorAxAx | well, that would be l1[0](l2[0], ...) | 23:55 |
| alon_ | ok, I'll try that. | 23:55 |
| amitReg | I made changes in interp_clr.py ... how will I be able to see the changes the next time I run NetPython with clr module | 23:58 |
| xorAxAx | amitReg: are you using py.py? | 23:58 |
| amitReg | yes. | 23:58 |
| xorAxAx | then they should be directly visible | 23:58 |
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| alon_ | xorAxAx: cool - it works, | 23:59 |
| alon_ | . | 23:59 |
| amitReg | mono py.py --withmodule-clr. | 23:59 |
| amitReg | something like that. | 23:59 |
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