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| mwh | morning | 12:38 |
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| ericvrp | morning | 12:51 |
| mwh | morning | 12:52 |
| mwh | oops, already said that here :) | 12:52 |
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| xorAxAx | :-) | 13:11 |
| arigo | mwh: we are running into a problem with your patch to the compiler package | 13:52 |
| arigo | the patch about fixing exec "global a; a=5" in glob, loc | 13:52 |
| arigo | it seems that it creates another bug: | 13:52 |
| arigo | class X: | 13:52 |
| arigo | def f(): | 13:52 |
| arigo | str | 13:52 |
| arigo | def str(): | 13:52 |
| arigo | pass | 13:52 |
| arigo | the "def str()" line compiles to a STORE_GLOBAL on 'str' | 13:53 |
| arigo | apparently because of the LOAD_GLOBAL 'str' in the other function | 13:53 |
| mwh | um | 13:58 |
| mwh | and that works without my patch? | 13:58 |
| arigo | I'm told so | 14:15 |
| mwh | hmm | 14:17 |
| mwh | well, my patch was just a quick hack | 14:19 |
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| Action: arigo has fun listened to hpk and pedronis trying to understand the Scopes in the compiler package | 16:28 | |
| sabi | heh | 16:28 |
| mwh | give them my regards | 16:30 |
| arigo | :-) | 16:30 |
| mwh | and sympathy | 16:30 |
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| Action: mwh pokes arigo | 21:47 | |
| mwh | i hope one of you lot is going to attach our compiler patches to the bug report on SF | 21:47 |
| arigo | I guess so | 21:48 |
| arigo | for now it's still not quite right | 21:48 |
| mwh | goody | 21:48 |
| mwh | oh? | 21:48 |
| mwh | hpk's checkin message was amusing | 21:48 |
| mwh | "this is too complicated to explain" | 21:49 |
| arigo | ah :-) then mine reverting it must be dumb | 21:49 |
| mwh | ? | 21:49 |
| mwh | oh, right | 21:49 |
| arigo | about to check in a fix... | 21:56 |
| arigo | maybe | 22:02 |
| mwh | heh | 22:02 |
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| arigo | getting closer | 22:06 |
| mwh | the scoping rules in python aren't _that_ complicated are they? | 22:07 |
| mwh | maybe there are | 22:07 |
| arigo | heh | 22:09 |
| arigo | def f(): | 22:09 |
| arigo | global b | 22:09 |
| arigo | exec "b=5" | 22:09 |
| arigo | return b | 22:09 |
| arigo | this kind of details | 22:09 |
| mwh | argl | 22:10 |
| mwh | that's illegal, isn't it? | 22:10 |
| arigo | not at all | 22:11 |
| arigo | :-) | 22:11 |
| arigo | guess what 'b=42; f()' returns? | 22:12 |
| xorAxAx | 42! | 22:12 |
| arigo | yes | 22:12 |
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| moshez | mwh: froop I am also here! | 22:12 |
| moshez | mwh: anyway, if you do ask around re: October sprint and get an answer | 22:13 |
| moshez | mwh: let me know! | 22:13 |
| mwh | maybe someone here knows the proposed dates of the october sprint | 22:14 |
| Action: mwh points at arigo, hpk | 22:14 | |
| arigo | Ludovic seemed to remember that it's about 10-17 October | 22:15 |
| mwh | right | 22:15 |
| mwh | that avoids my birthday, good :) | 22:15 |
| moshez | mwh: you do not wish to celebrate your birthday with python hackers? :( | 22:15 |
| arigo | :-) | 22:15 |
| arigo | (yes, hpk confirms that 10-17 is fixed) | 22:17 |
| moshez | ok | 22:17 |
| moshez | let me check if 10-17 are good dates | 22:17 |
| moshez | they don't sound extremely good :( | 22:17 |
| moshez | in the sense that they sound like they're on the holidays here | 22:18 |
| moshez | so expensiveness of trips | 22:18 |
| mwh | what funny holidays you have | 22:24 |
| arigo | woha | 22:24 |
| arigo | you can hide a local variable between two points in a function | 22:24 |
| arigo | def f(): | 22:25 |
| arigo | global a | 22:25 |
| arigo | exec "a=5" | 22:25 |
| arigo | ...stuff... | 22:25 |
| arigo | exec "a_again=a" | 22:25 |
| arigo | any other use of 'a' will see the global | 22:25 |
| mwh | huh? | 22:26 |
| mwh | how does that end up being a local? | 22:26 |
| arigo | the first exec stores the a in frame.f_locals | 22:26 |
| mwh | ah | 22:27 |
| mwh | the exec-ed code compiles to STORE_NAMEs presumably | 22:27 |
| arigo | yes | 22:27 |
| mwh | that kind of makes sense, in a sick kind of way | 22:27 |
| arigo | well, yes, in a terminally ill kind of way | 22:28 |
| mwh | using exec like that is already heading towards a&e | 22:28 |
| arigo | absolutely | 22:28 |
| mwh | using 'bare' exec in a function body, even | 22:29 |
| arigo | yes | 22:29 |
| arigo | "import *" too | 22:29 |
| mwh | i see you checked in | 22:47 |
| mwh | you don't seem to have posted the patch to SF yet :) | 22:49 |
| arigo | well we want to test it a bit more | 22:54 |
| arigo | and isolating that huge diff | 22:54 |
| arigo | I mean either we get a huge diff, or we isolate specific revisions | 22:54 |
| arigo | because the compiler package really is full of small problems that we fixed along the way | 22:54 |
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| mwh | would be nice to fix them for cpython too! | 22:55 |
| mwh | big changes or small, i don't care :) | 22:55 |
| mwh | good night | 22:55 |
| arigo | yes, I'd like to get our changes into CPython too, but my point was that it will take some efforts :-) | 22:55 |
| arigo | see you | 22:55 |
| mwh | ok | 22:55 |
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