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[00:52] <pedronis> yes
[00:53] <pedronis> stakkars: yes
[00:53] <stakkars> I am trying to find the best waytomake Variable() use local namespace per Flowgraph.
[00:54] <stakkars> it is a bit hairy, since Variable() is stand-alone right now, and variables are created deeplyinside of flowcontext.
[00:55] <pedronis> well, in there's one flow space per graph creation
[00:55] <stakkars> si I'm considering to add a dict to FlowExecutionContext tocollect variables
[00:55] <stakkars> a fresh flow space every time?
[00:55] <pedronis> so if you can delegate to through the space/context -> to the graph
[00:56] <pedronis> stakkars: I think so, if I remember correctly
[00:56] <pedronis> look in translator.getflowgraph
[00:56] <stakkars> that would be great. It is a little twisted to see the right way.
[00:57] <stakkars> and I have trouble since Variable() is used elsewhere.I don't want to add extra attributes totrack
[00:58] <stakkars> the origin of something. Would it be too strange to hide Variable and put it as a space method or somesuch?
[00:58] <stakkars> or always an extra paramter?
[01:00] <pedronis> no, I think given the constraints going through a make_var or some such method makes sense
[01:00] <stakkars> so I'd enforce it in every place?
[01:01] <pedronis> yes
[01:01] <stakkars> btw. I'm amazed by all the new pointer stuff showing up. Didn't expect this.
[01:04] <stakkars> pleasetellme when I can help.
[01:04] <stakkars> pedronis: thanks & good night
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[01:22] <stakkars> gaah! Itried to __slits__ify annmodel, but this makes comparison quite expensive,
[01:23] <stakkars> since I then have no __dict__. Either a generic method that walks __mro__ for slots, or it
[01:23] <stakkars> must be implemented by hand each time. No idea if it's worth it...
[01:27] <stakkars> ahh, found a way by generating the methods :-)
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[12:56] <cfbolz> hi!
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[13:15] <arigo> hi!
[13:17] <cfbolz> I'm planning my trip to Göteborg: There will be some activity before the conference, right?
[13:17] <arigo> yes
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[13:19] <arigo> we talked about 4 days of sprint before EP
[13:19] <cfbolz> ok. I will probably arrive on the 25th
[13:20] <arigo> ok, you're welcome at any time of course. if it's 4 days we'll start the 23rd
[13:21] <mwh> do we need to book the ep accomodation for before the con too?
[13:21] <cfbolz> I did that when I registered
[13:22] <arigo> mwh: that's a question for Laura
[13:22] <arigo> mwh: the pre-sprint will probably be at her place, and she (and we too) probably have a number of guest rooms or beds
[13:23] <mwh> ok
[13:25] <mwh> when/how do we find out?
[13:26] <arigo> best to Laura, CC to pypy-sprint
[13:26] <arigo> ^ask
[13:26] <mwh> okies
[13:27] <mwh> haven't seen anything on pypy-sprint for a while...
[13:28] <arigo> indeed
[13:28] <arigo> I guess we should start posing again about the pypy sprints soon :-)
[13:29] <cfbolz> yes. I would be good to do that before the end of early bird registration
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[13:30] <cfbolz> Veckobostäder?
[13:30] <mwh> yeah, that's the one
[13:31] <cfbolz> cool name
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[14:21] <cfbolz> can I somehow run only the non-core tests?
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[14:38] <arigo> cfbolz: yes, py.test -k "-core"
[14:38] <arigo> I think
[14:39] <arigo> maybe it's py.test -k"-core" to avoid having -core taken as an option?
[14:40] <cfbolz> ok. I'll try it.
[14:41] <cfbolz> nope. leads to zero tests
[14:42] <arigo> ah
[14:43] <cfbolz> maybe there is no NOT implemented. too bad.
[14:43] <arigo> works for me... are you running from the directory lib-python/2.3.4/test/ ?
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[14:44] <cfbolz> yes
[14:44] <cfbolz> no
[14:44] <cfbolz> thanks :-)
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[15:28] <cfbolz> nearly all core tests fail for me:
[15:28] <cfbolz> Traceback (application-level):
[15:28] <cfbolz> File "/tmp/dist-pypy/lib-python/2.3.4/test/test_copy_reg.py", line 1 in ?
[15:28] <cfbolz> import copy_reg
[15:28] <cfbolz> File "copy_reg.py", line 42 in ?
[15:28] <cfbolz> pickle(complex, pickle_complex, complex)
[15:28] <cfbolz> File "copy_reg.py", line 16 in pickle
[15:28] <cfbolz> raise TypeError("copy_reg is not intended for use with classes")
[15:28] <cfbolz> TypeError: copy_reg is not intended for use with classes
[15:28] <cfbolz> allways the same message
[15:30] <arigo> cfbolz: try removing the pypy/_cache directory?
[15:32] <arigo> test_copy_reg works for me...
[15:33] <cfbolz> ok, looks better now (test___all__ takes longer than if it just failed)
[15:33] <arigo> so the _cache was the problem?
[15:34] <cfbolz> I deleted the pycs too, so they could have been it
[15:34] <arigo> ok
[15:35] <cfbolz> sorry, could have checked more thoroughly
[15:35] <arigo> np
[15:36] <cfbolz> (well not really, I'm sitting in a lecture right now :-) )
[15:36] <arigo> :-)
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[16:02] <cfbolz> (lectures over)
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[16:03] <mwh> heh
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[20:31] <stakkars> hi
[20:33] <arigo> hi!
[20:33] <stakkars> just a small question:
[20:34] <stakkars> when we are annotating, then all the SomeXXXobjects are involved.
[20:34] <stakkars> Do they do something special during __setattr__?
[20:35] <stakkars> Itried tocount the attribute write access and wrote an __setattr__ that counts and then rdirects to the __dict__.
[20:35] <stakkars> when I do that,annotation breaks.
[20:35] <stakkars> when I instead redirect through object.__setattr__(self, key,val) it works.
[20:35] <stakkars> SoI gues we are doing some magic there? Or is the dict idea just wrong.
[20:42] <arigo> stakkars: they have property: 'origin'
[20:42] <arigo> and a caused_by_merge one, too
[20:42] <arigo> (that's part of the debugging code)
[20:43] <stakkars> aaaaahhhhh I just didn't see them. thanks!
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